A sitting U.S. congresswoman has sparked fresh debate over the existence of non-human life and unexplained phenomena, after claiming in a high-profile podcast interview that she has personally viewed photographic and historical evidence of so-called “interdimensional beings” on Earth.
Representative Anna Paulina Luna, a Republican from Florida and a member of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, made the comments during a wide-ranging conversation with Joe Rogan on his Joe Rogan Experience podcast this week. The remarks have since rippled across social media and news outlets, reigniting discussions about government secrecy, UFO sightings, and whether the United States is withholding advanced knowledge from the public.
During the interview, Luna told Rogan she has been shown material by credible sources — including U.S. Air Force pilots — suggesting that certain unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) are not of human origin.
“They call them interdimensional beings,” Luna said, explaining that these entities are believed by some to operate beyond the physical limitations of our known reality. “I think that they can actually operate through the time-spaces that we currently have. And that’s not something that I came up with on my own. That’s based on stuff that we’ve seen, that’s based on information that we’ve been told.”
Her description of “operating through time-spaces” appeared to reference theories in fringe physics and speculative science, where objects or beings are thought to move in ways that bypass traditional spatial or temporal boundaries.
Luna said that without revealing classified information, she could confirm having been presented with credible reports of anomalies that defy conventional understanding.
“Without getting into classified conversations, there have been incidences where I believe very credible people have reported that there have been movements outside of time and space,” she told Rogan. “Based on the photos that I’ve seen, I’m very confident that there’s things out there that have not been created by mankind.”
She also claimed to have spoken with multiple military personnel who have firsthand accounts of unexplained aerial encounters — incidents that, according to her, were not only observed but allegedly suppressed by the U.S. military.
Pressed by Rogan to clarify what she has personally witnessed, Luna made a distinction between seeing alleged evidence and having direct encounters.
“Have I seen a portal open? No,” she said. “Have I seen spaceship personally? No. Have I seen evidence of this? Yes. Have I seen photo documentation of aircraft that I believe were not made by mankind? Yes.”
The congresswoman did not disclose when or where she had seen these photographs, nor did she provide details about their provenance. She also did not say whether the images had been independently verified by experts outside government or military channels.
Luna’s statements on Rogan’s podcast are consistent with her previous public comments. In 2024, she appeared on The Grant Mitt Podcast and stated she “absolutely” believed the U.S. government possesses “advanced technologies not of human origin.”
Those earlier remarks aligned her with a small but vocal group of lawmakers who have pressed for greater transparency on UAP investigations, particularly in the wake of testimony from former intelligence and military officials alleging government cover-ups.
The interview also touched on recently declassified information about the CIA’s use of “remote viewing” — a controversial practice in which individuals attempt to perceive and describe distant locations or objects without physical interaction, allegedly through extrasensory perception.
Luna mentioned that she had read files detailing CIA and other government efforts to locate high-value targets or artifacts through this method, including biblical relics such as the Ark of the Covenant and Noah’s Ark, as well as reports of “human-like aliens” on the far side of the Moon.
“Why would our own government be looking into that if there wasn’t something there?” Luna asked rhetorically.
As part of her discussion on remote viewing, Luna shared an anecdote she said came from declassified documents. In one case, she claimed, the U.S. Coast Guard had information about a ship suspected of smuggling drugs. A remote viewer was allegedly brought in to pinpoint the vessel’s coordinates.
According to her account, the remote viewer’s input was part of the operational process to locate the ship, though Luna did not provide information about whether the effort succeeded or how accurate the viewing was deemed to be.
Rogan, who has often hosted guests discussing UFOs, government secrecy, and unexplained phenomena, added his own example of alleged remote viewing. He said he had heard a story that the U.S. government once used the technique to locate a downed Russian craft “within like a couple kilometers” of its actual position.
He also commented on the general public’s reluctance to accept unusual claims.
“Just because I haven’t done it and because I don’t know that it’s real, doesn’t mean it’s not real,” Rogan said. “And this is a problem with people. They don’t want to get duped and they don’t want to look stupid.”
Luna’s decision to discuss her beliefs in such a public forum adds another political dimension to the already sensitive topic of UAPs and alleged extraterrestrial or interdimensional contact. While bipartisan interest in investigating UAPs has grown in recent years — with congressional hearings and whistleblower testimony making headlines — the subject remains politically risky.
Skeptics argue that without tangible, verifiable evidence made available to the public, such statements can fuel misinformation and conspiracy theories. Others counter that the government’s longstanding secrecy on the matter has made public speculation inevitable.
Throughout the interview, Luna was careful to avoid revealing classified information. She frequently prefaced her remarks by noting the limits of what she could say, framing her disclosures as based on declassified materials, personal observations of unclassified photographs, and conversations with individuals she considers credible.
That approach allowed her to speak freely without violating security protocols, but it also meant her most striking claims lacked independently verifiable details.
Elected to Congress in 2022, Anna Paulina Luna is a U.S. Air Force veteran who has positioned herself as an advocate for military transparency and accountability. Her comments on UAPs and unconventional intelligence practices fit within a broader political persona that embraces challenging official narratives and pushing for disclosure on controversial subjects.
Her military background, combined with her role on the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, lends her remarks a degree of institutional authority — though critics point out that holding such positions does not automatically validate extraordinary claims.
Luna’s statements come amid a surge of public and governmental interest in UAPs. In recent years, the Pentagon has confirmed the authenticity of several Navy videos showing unexplained aerial objects, and congressional hearings have featured testimony from pilots, intelligence officers, and other officials urging transparency.
The Department of Defense established the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to investigate reports, but its findings so far have not confirmed the existence of extraterrestrial life or interdimensional travel. Most UAP cases remain either unresolved or attributed to airborne clutter, natural phenomena, or misidentified aircraft.
In the hours after Luna’s interview was released, social media platforms lit up with commentary. Supporters applauded her willingness to speak on the record about controversial topics, framing it as an act of political courage. Critics dismissed the remarks as unsubstantiated, questioning the credibility of both remote viewing and interdimensional being theories.
Several users pointed to the lack of physical evidence and warned against taking anecdotal accounts at face value. Others, however, argued that elected officials making such claims should prompt further investigation rather than outright dismissal.
Whether Luna’s statements will lead to any formal action in Congress remains unclear. Calls for greater declassification of UAP-related materials have grown in recent years, but significant policy shifts or disclosures have been rare.
For now, her remarks stand as one of the more direct acknowledgements from a sitting member of Congress that she believes in the existence of non-human, possibly interdimensional entities — and that she has seen photographic evidence she considers credible.
In the absence of public proof, the claims remain in the realm of personal belief and testimony. Yet in a political climate where UAPs are no longer relegated entirely to the fringe, comments like Luna’s ensure that the conversation about what might be “outside of time and space” is far from over.
